[Dev] Video processing

Smith, Kenneth ksmith15 at jaguarlandrover.com
Wed Sep 16 22:03:33 GMT 2015

Actually, Debian has decided to go back to ffmpeg:


On 16 September 2015 at 14:12, Streif, Rudolf <rstreif at jaguarlandrover.com>

> Hi Art,
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 9:25 AM, McGee, Art <amcgee7 at jaguarlandrover.com>
>  wrote:
>> I am currently using the Feb 2nd release of Tizen-ivi.  I'm working on a
>> project for video processing.  It uses the Tizen Content api to retrieve
>> video content from the system.  I've noticed that thumbnails are not
>> include in the api even't though the property is there.  As a workaround
>> I've use ffmpeg for both creating thumbnails and cutting video content.
>> For the moment ffmpeg is only included by building on the box and
>> installing manually.  I recently learned that Ubuntu uses a different
>> package than ffmpeg.  This package is libav.  I've looked and noticed that
>> Tizen has some packages like this as well.  I wanted to ask the question.
>> Should I work with these packages instead?  Are they able to generate the
>> thumbnails and crop video content as well?  I have found little
>> documentation to support usage of libav in Tizen.
> This may boil down to ffmpeg vs libav. The latter is technically a fork of
> the former made for reasons that are all too common with open source:
> disagreement between the maintainer and some contributors. Instead of
> working together and resolving the differences some broke away and created
> the libav fork.
> Libav first set out to, what their developers said, "cleaning up the API."
> Well, we know it from our own experience as software developers, as a
> project evolves design decisions originally made for APIs etc. become
> constraints. Changing the APIs almost every time involves breaking
> backwards compatibility. The libav developers did not care and hence
> clients that were not ported were broken. The ffmpeg develoeprs introduced
> a new API too, but more softly be maintaining two branches that were mostly
> feature-identical, one with the old API and one with the new. Of course,
> over time you deprecate the old API and branch.
> The ffmpeg developers also stayed on top of the changes and bug fixes that
> the libav team did and ported them (I cannot tell what exactly and how many
> without extensive research though) into ffmpeg. The libav team did not care
> that much about what was going on in ffmpeg world. So for most part for
> about 2 years since the split both libraries stayed pretty close together
> in functionality.
> Eventually, the libav team introduced libraries for audio resampling. That
> functionality was already available in ffmpeg 0.9 but the libav team did
> not want to adopt it. I don't know about the reasons. They actually did pay
> a developer to write a new resample library. That is when the split became
> more notable. Originally, libav also had a command-line tool called ffmpeg
> like the original ffmpeg from the ffmpeg project. There were differences
> but not much for the standard user who did not explore into the utter depth
> of video and audio processing. Eventually, the libav project dropped
> ffmpeg. The tool is now avconv.
> The libav project is mostly backed by Debian and Ubuntu. My personal
> preference is ffmpeg. Some of my reasons are not that much technical:
>    - I do not care for projects and developers who knowingly and
>    willingly break backwards compatibility.
>    - I do not think that forking is a solution for solving differences in
>    open-source projects.
>    - ffmpeg since then has fixed many of the issues that lead to the
>    fork: such as maintainer autocracy.
>    - ffmpeg has been more agile fixing bugs and providing patches and new
>    releases.
>    - It worked well for me in the past.
> Hence, my advise would be to use ffmpeg. Debian/Ubuntu users probably have
> a different opinion.
> Cheers,
> Rudi

Kind Regards,

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