[Tizen General] Next developer device

Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) tizen at rasterman.com
Wed Aug 20 02:38:45 GMT 2014


On Wed, 20 Aug 2014 03:36:55 +0200 Olivier Nyssen <nyssen11 at gmail.com> said:

> Thanks for the replies, guys.
> A wifi tablet has many advantages imo: it's a very simple device, it can be
> made rapidly and it doesn't interfere with existing marketing programs.
> This device would be a real "community" device, 100% open and experimental.

someone would have made it already "for community"if this were going to happen.
there just is no will to do so (for various reasons i won't be getting into).

i'm just saying - don't get your hopes up. chances of anything happening like
this is effectively 0, and proof of that is that nothing has happened for years.

(i am not counting the developer devices which you can't buy or get actually -
yu basically have to be lucky to get one).

> Carsten: couldn't we use an Enlightenment UI on a Tizen tablet ?

you can use it. though tizen mobile would be closer to what you needed/wanted.

> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 1:50 AM, Carsten Haitzler <tizen at rasterman.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 10:06:28 -0700 jezra <jezra at jezra.net> said:
> >
> > > On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 08:44:40 -0700
> > > Thiago Macieira <thiago.macieira at intel.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Tuesday 19 August 2014 08:20:28 Olivier Nyssen wrote:
> > > > > Hi everyone,
> > > > >
> > > > > I would like to make a suggestion for the next developer device:
> > > > > a Samsung tablet with an Intel Atom CPU would a nice symbol of the
> > > > > Tizen project.
> > > > > Tizen Common with Samsung's SAP and OSP would be a great OS imo
> > > >
> > > > Hi Olivier
> > > >
> > > > A tablet with Tizen Common would make little sense. There isn't much
> > > > you can do with Tizen Common except develop more Tizen. People would
> > > > be a little frustrated that they'd boot their devices to the X
> > > > checkerboard-and-pointer screen.
> > > >
> > > > Also, we don't have a Tablet profile. We could consider it to be
> > > > "large mobile" but the UX might not be right. More to the point:
> > > > until one of the Tizen member companies is considering doing a Tizen
> > > > tablet, there's no point in giving tablets to developers: their
> > > > designs and solutions would not match the desired device type.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Why couldn't the tablet have the Tizen 3 Gnome UI?
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU1v56cmzKI
> >
> > unless you're willing to do a lot of work on gnome to support things like:
> >
> > rotation protocols/hints between wm and clients
> > indicator services (with shm + protocol)
> > vkbd support (with all the extensions on scim we have added etc.)
> > and more...
> >
> > gnome isn't viable as it'd be nothing like tizen.
> >
> > > In regards to a mobile device for developers, why not offer a
> > > device that is an actual usable phone that developers will use daily?
> > > It is more likely that a developer will "scratch the itch" for a usable
> > > device that is in their pocket than they will for a device that sits on
> > > the shelf.
> >
> > i wish we did. i have been yelling/grumbling/complaining/writing emails and
> > more to people for years. since before tizen 1.0 even was out. it hasn't
> > been
> > done. it should have been the first thing we did at tizen 1.0 - a reference
> > phone that you can buy and use. updated every year or so to stay
> > representative
> > of what hardware is at today. it has nothing to do with making money and
> > all to
> > do with seeding ecosystem. but hey - no one is doing this, or has done it
> > for
> > years, so what do you think the chances are of someone doing this now all
> > of a
> > sudden is when even the insiders can't get any movement on it?
> >
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