[Tizen General] Next developer device

Leon Anavi leon at anavi.org
Wed Aug 20 06:57:33 GMT 2014

Hi All,

I do not think that there a need for any company participating in the 
Tizen Association to provide free Tizen tablets to developers right now. 
There a lot of existing tablets on the market which are compatible with 

I have been experimenting with the open-source hardware development 
boards of Olimex with Allwinner SoC and recently I bought a cheap tablet 
with Allwinner A20 dual-core ARM CPU and Mali 400 GPU. I was able to 
boot Tizen:Common image on it. The touchscreen was not working but it is 
a proof of the concept for a low budget Tizen tablet.

There are millions of tablets with Allwinner SoC on the market. You can 
buy such tablet for less than $100. These tablets are shipped with 
Android but Tizen can be booted from microSD card without affecting the 
original Android image so as a result you will get a dual-boot tablet.

I totally agree with Thiago that a tablet with Tizen:Common will not be 
attractive for end consumers. In the same time such a tablet can be 
still useful in certain cases:
* Developers will be interested in having a real Tizen device for Tizen 
application development and debugging.
* Universities can work with the device in course related to operating 
systems. I already had a contact with a couple of universities 
interested in Tizen-sunxi because of this.
* Embedded developers and freelancers might be interested in a working 
cheap device with screen and a decent case that they can easily 
integrate in small projects for home automation or other IoT fields. The 
popular existing Android and Debian images for Sunxi devices are not 
that good for this and Tizen:Common can fit the gap.

As a community we are not that far from offering Tizen:Common images for 
Sunxi devices (aka devices with Allwinner SoC). There are 3 key issues 
that we should solve:
1. A Linux-sunxi kernel (forked from the Linux kernel) 3.10 or newer to 
support the smack requirements in Tizen:Common.
2. A working Mali driver of Tizen and Suxni devices.
3. Support of Crosswalk (right now it is not working because of the 
issue with Mali drivers)

If these three issues are solved it should be possible to boot 
Tizen:Common on OLinuXino, CubieBoard, Banana Pi and to deploy Tizen web 
applications on them directly from Tizen IDE and/or SDB.


On 2014-08-20 09:22, Thiago Macieira wrote:
> On Tuesday 19 August 2014 21:50:09 Thiago Macieira wrote:
>> On Wednesday 20 August 2014 03:36:55 Olivier Nyssen wrote:
>> > Thanks for the replies, guys.
>> > A wifi tablet has many advantages imo: it's a very simple device, it can
>> > be
>> > made rapidly and it doesn't interfere with existing marketing programs.
>> > This device would be a real "community" device, 100% open and
>> > experimental.
>> > Carsten: couldn't we use an Enlightenment UI on a Tizen tablet ?
>> Who's going to pay for that device?
> Let me make the question clear: why would one of the companies involved 
> pay
> for such a device?
> Companies aren't involved out of the goodness of their hearts. They 
> have a
> business objective behind the actions they do. So can you give me a 
> business
> reason why one of the involved companies would fund a Tizen tablet?


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