[Tizen General] The Tizen Project is broken. We will be spending some time apart.

Bob Summerwill bob at summerwill.net
Mon Aug 25 17:22:23 GMT 2014


CNET too now:
http://www.cnet.com/news/huawei-gives-samsungs-tizen-os-a-thumbs-down/


Cheers,
Bob


On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 9:45 AM, jezra <jezra at jezra.net> wrote:

> It is very probable that those with "position of influence within the
> project" are not on the mailing list.
>
> On Mon, 25 Aug 2014 04:43:15 -0700
> Bob Summerwill <bob at summerwill.net> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the follow-up, Mats.
> >
> > I was expecting a public response.    Normally when you say "this
> > project is broken", I would expect some kind of "no it isn't"
> > response from the project leads, or at least "yes, we are aware there
> > are problems, and here's what we are doing to mitigate it".    To get
> > nothing back is very disappointing.    It gives the impression that
> > nobody in a position of influence within the project really cares
> > whether Tizen fails or succeeds. That, or they are gagged (which is
> > more likely).    Not so great for an open source project in either
> > case.
> >
> > While it is great to see your response, those impressions remain with
> > me.
> >
> > Thanks for the additional information around the LinuxCon structure
> > and IoT consortium.
> >
> > I dug up this amusing tweet on the topic :-)
> >
> >     https://twitter.com/TomRaftery/status/486797277181538304
> >
> > Glad to hear that you will be presenting about Tizen in the future.
> > Best of luck with that.
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Bob
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Mats Wichmann <mats at osg.samsung.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On 08/22/14 11:00, Bob Summerwill wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The fact that there has been NO REPLY whatsoever to this mail a
> > > > week later speaks volumes about the state of the Tizen Project.
> > > >
> > > > I've been watching various recorded presentations from LinuxCon
> > > > in the last couple of days.   LinuxCon is organized by the Linux
> > > > Foundation, but I've seen no mention whatsoever of Tizen at the
> > > > conference.
> > > ...
> > > > Please could somebody in a position of influence within the Tizen
> > > > Project make at least some response?
> > >
> > > Position of Influence != me.  This is just me as an individual.
> > > Don't necessarily expect to hear from such a person here (at least
> > > not at the level of influence you seem to be after).
> > >
> > > Bob, I have to say that your original post didn't really read like
> > > it was fishing for a response.  My own personal reaction is not one
> > > of major disagreement with your positions. There's a lot to be
> > > fixed, and the spate of governance and other activities ramping up
> > > for Tizen 3.0 don't seem to have had a lot of influence on the kind
> > > of things you were complaining about (not yet, at least). It's
> > > frustrating. I'll observe that the Tizen platform development
> > > community seems to be pretty healthy and humming along nicely in
> > > the absence of very public roadmaps, released devices, and such
> > > like.  Like you, I'd personally worry about building a third-party
> > > business plan with things looking this unpredictable.
> > >
> > > on to...
> > >
> > > LinuxCon in general is running colocated mini-confs for Tizen and a
> > > number of other projects.  If a talk proposal that happens to focus
> > > on Tizen gets accepted for one of the main LinuxCon tracks, so be
> > > it, but at a LinuxCon/CloudOpen Tizen would not be expected to be a
> > > main focus area. You'll see that from the call for proposals - the
> > > focus is more general that such a specific project as Tizen. So
> > > you'll probably see Tizen activties only at the miniconf, which may
> > > or may not even have an internet presence.  I make no comment on
> > > that setup, just reporting that it's the way it is.  [Information
> > > Note: I'll be doing a Tizen presentation at the LinuxCon Europe
> > > miniconf in  October, so I know there will be some presence there]
> > >
> > > and...
> > >
> > > Some IoT things look like they may happen in the context of the Open
> > > Interconnect Consortium (openinterconnect.org), which has key Tizen
> > > participants as founding members.  I haven't heard a lot of Tizen
> > > wording around the founding of that group, but I'm assuming that
> > > there will be synergy here (again, just personal opinions).
> > >
> > > cheers,
> > >
> > > -- mats
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> >
> >
>
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bob at summerwill.net
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